Sunday, April 3, 2011
At the Dove World Outreach Center in Gainesville, FL, an evangelical pastor named Terry Jones supervised the burning of a pile of Korans on the anniversary of Sept. 11, 2001 attacks.
Whether you agree with Jones’ actions or not, the fact is, the Koran has been used to justify the murder of gays, subjugate women, carry out genocide against infidels, and rationalize hundreds of terrorist attacks around the world.
A person with even a drop of commonsense must admit the Koran is responsible for the spiritual and literal enslavement of millions throughout the Muslim world. The violent legacy and the destructive effects of the Christian Bible pale in comparison to the Koran. There isn’t a single Muslim nation that qualifies as a democracy, and this includes Iran, Pakistan, Turkey and Indonesia.
While burning a Koran serves no purpose other than to harass Muslims, the violent reaction of Afghans in the southern city of Kandahar to Pastor Terry Jones’ stunt is over the top and disproportionate to the Koran burning.
According to a report in Los Angeles Times:
Crazed rioters attacked the U.N. headquarters leaving seven foreigners dead.
Demonstrators torched cars, smashed windows and occupied a school building, a provincial spokesman said. Shops and businesses shut down as most residents of the country’s second-largest city took refuge at home. More than 80 people were injured.
Three NATO troops were injured and authorities in Kandahar reported nine people were killed in furious street riots.
President Obama wasted no time inserting himself in the situation. He expressed his condolences to families of the victims on Saturday saying, “The desecration of any holy text, including the Koran, is an act of extreme intolerance and bigotry.”
The murderous mob response of Afghans to a Koran burning half a world away in Florida should serve as a wake-up call to Washington: Afghanistan is a primitive Muslim nation mired in the 8th century. President Hamid Karzai is a thief and his government is steeped in political corruption. Believe me, the minute U.S. troops redeploy, Karzai will likely make some accommodation with the Taliban in order to survive.
Osama bin Laden — if he’s even still alive, isn’t living in a cave in Afghanistan but in nearby Pakistan, according to recently leaked intelligence reports. No wonder recent polls show two-thirds of the American people say the Afghanistan war is not worth fighting and the decade-long conflict is based on reasons no longer seem relevant.
For the Afghan people to slaughter U.N. workers as well as their own citizens over burning Korans in Florida is just a whole lot of tragic phooey. It’s time for President Obama to listen to the American people who overwhelmingly want out of Afghanistan or we will elect someone who will listen.
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You are a brave man, Christopher. You dared to criticize Obama, Muslims and the war in Afghanistan all in one post.
The folks who support Obama support his surge and escalation of the Afghanistan War as well as his meddling in Libya. The New Left are suddenly Hawks and whatever this president does they mindless support.
I agree. What’s happening in Afghanistan is proof-positive that we’re occupying a nation from another millennium. They don’t want the Americans there anymore than they wanted the Russians there but, Obama is too arrogant to see this.
Now that the Pentagon discovered minerals in Afghanistan, I don’t expect the US will ever leave.
Are we allowed to say Muslims in Afghanistan are kooks?
You forgot to mention more than 500 university students also protested in the eastern city of Jalalabad and they shouted for U.S. troops to leave, burning an effigy of President Barack Obama and stomping on a drawing of a U.S. flag.
Just ask yourself how you would feel if a foreign army invaded and occupied say, Kansas City or Atlanta, or Portland? We’re not wanted in Afghanistan and the troops need to leave.
The U.S. Army is building 8 major bases in southern Afghanistan in an expansion that underscores a larger troop commitment to the defeat America’s Taliban fantasy. The planned network of new bases shows the degree to which U.S. lawmakers will step up operations to hunt down bands of Taliban insurgents, trained by the CIA.
I’m afraid we’re in Afghanistan forever.
I feel like burning an effigy of President Obama.
With the discovery of $4 trillion in minerals, the US won’t need the Central Bank of Beijing to buy our war debt anymore.
All that gold and Lithium will foot the expense of a forever occupation.
If I can add, last year Afghanistan passed a law allowing a husband to withhold food and starve his wife if she refuses to have sexual intercourse.
The law governs family life for Afghanistan’s Shia minority, which make up about 15 per cent of the 30million population.
It allows a husband to withhold food from his wife if she refuses to submit to his sexual demands.
In the original version, Shia women were ordered to have sex with their husbands every four days.
The bill was passed quietly with the apparent approval of Mr Karzai.
SOURCE: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1207026/Afghan-husbands-allowed-starve-wives-refuses-sex.html
I would like President Obama to explain to me why we’re in Afghanistan?
//The violent legacy and the destructive effects of the Christian Bible pale in comparison to the Koran//
Whoa… just google ‘crusade massacres’ or ‘pogrom’ and the bible doesn’t take second place to any religious text. Throw in the Inquisition, the Medieval witch hunts….. and the good old bible is second to none. About the only religion that has not fostered rampant violence is Buddhism. Just saying…. and another reason why I am a atheist.
hey, not to give anybody a ride, including Obama….. we should get the fuck out of Afghanistan and Iraq….. and I am not sure of this whole Libya shit…. and the burning of the Koran was a sick stunt by some fringe lunatic…. in the same class(less) sensibility as the Westboro Baptist idiots.
Obama has a soft spot in his heart for the Islamic world. He’s no better than his predecessor.
When the US House of Representative rejected a call for all American forces to leave Afghanistan this month, I knew the fix was in and Obama had his cover. All the alleged tension between Obama and Boehner — please, give me a break.
They’re two side of the same coin.
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Here’s one that is guaranteed to make the kumbaya crowd swoon.
Sen. Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) told CBS’s Bob Schieffer on Sunday that some members of Congress are considering some kind of action in response to the Florida Quran burning that sparked a murderous riot at a United Nations complex in Afghanistan and other mayhem.
“Ten to 20 people have been killed,” Reid said on “Face the Nation,” but refused to say flat-out that the Senate would pass a resolution condemning pastor Terry Jones.
Really Harry? How about focusing on jobs and energy and leave First Amendment matters alone?
Christopher is 100% correct. The leading Imam in Manchester, UK confirmed that he thinks the execution of gay men is justified under Sharia law.
John Casson, a British psychotherapist posed the question to Arshad Misbahi of the Manchester Central Mosque.
“I asked him if the execution of gay Muslims in Iran and Iraq was an acceptable punishment in Sharia law, or the result of culture, not religion. He told me that in a true Islamic state, such punishments were part of Islam: If the person had had a trial, at which four witnesses testified that they had seen the actual homosexual acts.”
Casson pressed him further.
“I checked again that this was not a matter of tradition, culture or local prejudice. ‘No,’ he said, ‘It is part of the central tenets of Islam: that sex outside marriage is forbidden; this is stated in the Koran and the prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) had stated that these punishments were due to such behaviours.”
Sorry folks, but Islam as practiced in such nations as Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, Sudan, Cameroon, and others, is incompatible with the west. We are not ever going to be one, big happy family and the sooner people accept this, the better off we will be.
The ragheads in Afghanistan need to grow the fuck up and act like adults.
If they’re so unbalanced that the act of burning one of the precious holy books on the other side of the planet causes them to go postal, then maybe they need a shot of good, old fashioned Atheism or a trip to the neighborhood psychologist for therapy.
Sharia is not benign.
The American media needs to stop portraying Sharia as a loving and accepting form is Islam. I don’t pretend to know who is pushing this notion on you Yanks because it’s a scriptural falsehood.
It’s a well known fact that in Afghanistan, a woman must have sex with their husband otherwise her husband may legally withhold food. It’s a well known fact that gays people are hanged, shot or stoned to death in Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan. Acknowledging facts doesn’t make you a Islamaphobe, it simply means you are informed. I have never cared one way or another about a person’s religious beliefs as this is their business but, as an American and a Jew, I believe Islam is not compatible with the USA.
Sharia is not benign.
Nigel,
You are 100% correct and Americans are naive if they think otherwise.
Are you familiar with the LGBT Asylum Project based in London? They do excellent work raising awareness and helping LGBT Muslims get out of Islamic nations.
These Muslims are crazed fanatics. This is what the U.S. troops are fighting and dying for and American taxpayer is paying for. You know, the U.S. needs to have its head examined by a team of shrinks. We’re have absolutely no business in this part of the world. Killing UN aide workers? Seriously? Classy, Afghanistan. We should nuke them.
Poor President Barry Soetoro.
He’s lost control of the entire mission in Libya. Apparently, the back channel story circulating claims the British, along with the help of the French and Italians, have cut a deal with Mr. Musa Kusa permitting Qaddafi to hand over power to his son, Seif, who will oversee reform in Libya.
The back channel story says President Barry Soetoro isn’t pleased. Of course, while everyone agrees that Qadddafi must go, inexplicably, it’s President Barry Soetoro who refuses to take the steps to make that happen.
Is he afraid of harming his Muslim brother?
Further proof, as if we need it, that the Muslim world is simply very different. Those countries will never be Ohio, and we shouldn’t expect them to be “just like us.” We need to mind our own business.
Sharia is not benign.
The American media needs to stop portraying Sharia as a loving and accepting form is Islam.
Maybe you need to do something besides read FOX “News,” Nigel? I would expect this kind of uninformed drivel from a properly-brainwashed American, but I thought you people had better news sources than our propagandists.
Jolly Roger,
Nigel is correct. His statement has nothing to due with Fox News.
Laws and practices under Sharia
Marriage laws
The Muslim man who is not currently a fornicator can only marry a Muslim woman who is not currently a fornicatress or a chaste woman from the people of the book.
The Muslim fornicator can only marry Muslim fornicatress.
The number of wives is limited to four, – Mohammed married 15 women and consummated his marriages with 13. (al-Tabari vol.9 p.126-127)
The Muslim woman who is not currently a fornicatress can only marry a Muslim man who is not currently a fornicator.
The Muslim fornicatress can only marry a Muslim fornicator.
The woman cannot marry without the consent of her guardian. If she marries, her husband becomes her new guardian.
The guardian may choose to marry the virgin without asking her consent, however she can oppose the marriage and then it is cancelled.
The guardian cannot marry the divorced woman or the widow if she didn’t ask to be married.
The number of husbands is limited to one, the Muslim mistress cannot have sex with her slaves.
Islamic law on marriage differs from one school of thought to another.[6]
Divorce laws
A husband may divorce his wife whenever he wants. If the marriage has been consummated, the divorced woman must remain at her ex-husband’s house for three months before she is allowed to leave. The man has the ability to retract the divorce by having sex with the woman within those three months.
A woman who wishes to be divorced needs the consent of her husband. If he consents she has to pay back the dowry. Under certain circumstances (abuse, for instance), the wife may ask a judge to separate the couple.
If a man divorces his wife three times, he can no longer marry her again unless she marries another man and then divorces him. These are guidelines; Islamic law on divorce is different depending on the school of thought.[7]
The penalty for theft
In accordance with the Qur’an and several hadith, theft is punished by imprisonment or amputation of hands or feet, depending on the number of times it was committed.[2][3]
The penalty for adultery
Stoning to Death in Islam
In accordance with hadith, stoning to death is the penalty for married men and women who commit adultery.[4] For unmarried men and women, the punishment prescribed in the Qur’an and hadith is 100 lashes.[5]
Male homosexuality & Sharia
Sodomy is a crime for which both partners can be punished by death. If the participants are adults, of sound mind and consenting; the method of execution is for the Shari’a judge to decide. A non-adult who engages in consensual sodomy is subject to a punishment of 74 lashes. (Articles 108 to 113) Sodomy is proved either if a person confesses four times to having committed sodomy or by the testimony of four righteous men. Testimony of women alone or together with a man does not prove sodomy. (Articles 114 to 119). “If sodomy, or the lesser crimes referred to above, are proved by confession, and the person concerned repents, the Shari’a judge may request that he be pardoned. If a person who has committed the lesser crimes referred to above repents before the giving of testimony by the witnesses, the punishment is quashed. (Articles 125 and 126).
Female homosexuality and Sharia
The punishment for female homosexuality involving persons who are mature, of sound mind, and consenting, is 100 lashes. If the act is repeated three times and punishment is enforced each time, the death sentence will apply on the fourth occasion. (Articles 127, 129, 130) The ways of proving lesbianism in court are the same as for male homosexuality. (Article 128) Non-Muslim and Muslim alike are subject to punishment (Article 130) The rules for the quashing of sentences, or for pardoning, are the same as for the lesser male homosexual offences (Articles 132 and 133) Women who “stand naked under one cover without necessity” and are not relatives are punished by up to 100 lashes. (Article 134)