TIME Poll: Majority Oppose Mosque, Distrust Muslims

Thursday, August 19, 2010


Less than a week after President Obama said he supported the construction of a controversial Islamic mosque and cultural center two blocks from the site of the World Trade Center Towers in lower Manhattan, a new TIME poll suggests the president is on the wrong side of an issue that is guaranteed to become an election issue in November midterms and beyond.

From TIME:

Opponents of the planned Islamic community center and mosque near Ground Zero in lower Manhattan have public opinion firmly in their corner. According to a new TIME poll, 61% of respondents oppose the construction of the Park51/Cordoba House project, compared with 26% who support it. More than 70% concur with the premise that proceeding with the plan would be an insult to the victims of the attacks on the World Trade Center. Opposition to the project appears to derive largely from the conviction that the proposed site of the project — just two blocks from Ground Zero, in a building that formerly housed a Burlington Coat Factory outlet — is so close to “hallowed ground.”

Mr. Obama’s incoherent support of the planned Islamic mosque further reinforces the widespread belief that the president is a Muslim, and not a Christian.

Twenty-eight percent of voters do not believe Muslims should be eligible to sit on the U.S. Supreme Court. Nearly one-third of the country thinks adherents of Islam should be barred from running for President — a slightly higher percentage than the 24% who mistakenly believe the current occupant of the Oval Office is himself a Muslim. In all, just 47% of respondents believe Obama is a Christian; 24% declined to respond to the question or said they were unsure, and 5% believe he is neither Christian nor Muslim.

Park51, originally called the Cordoba House, is a planned $100 million, 13-story, glass and steel Islamic cultural center and mosque, just two blocks or 600 feet from where the World Trade Center stood, is sponsored by Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf. Rauf’s views regarding the 9/11 terrorist attacks on America have been called into question.

In an interview two weeks after 9/11, Rauf told the late Ed Bradley on 60 Minutes:

“I wouldn’t say that the United States deserved what happened. But the United States’ policies were an accessory to the crime that happened. In fact, in the most direct sense, Osama bin Laden is made in the USA.”

It remains an utter mystery to me why President Obama would offer his support for the construction of a monument to Jihad supported by an Imam who told 60 Minutes that on 9/11, America basically had it coming.

This is, in my view, no different from telling a rape victim she had it coming because she dared to wear a skirt and lipstick.

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42 Responses to TIME Poll: Majority Oppose Mosque, Distrust Muslims

  1. Big Hank says:

    I think simple economics will sink the mosque.

    The so-called Cordoba Initiative hasn’t raised anywhere near their $100 million goal to build this thing. In fact, the group’s latest fundraising report with the NY state attorney general’s office shows exactly $18,255.

    Add to the obstacles, what architect or builder would want to be involved in this. Even in a recession, I can’t see anyone hoping on the Jihad train.

  2. Rachel says:

    I may not be the political genius a lot of you but I am certain now that Obama will serve a single term and be voted out of office in 2012. He’s just not ready for primetime. I thought he was but, I was wrong. He’s out of touch with the American people.

  3. Walk on Socks says:

    Why is the left so afraid of offending Islam?

    Islam attacked this country on 9/11, Islam in Iran has said they want Israel wiped off the map, Islam stones gay people and trans people to death, and Islam teaches children that the west — specifically Jews and Americans are they devil.

    I say offend away. Where were the voices of moderate Islam after 9/11? Crickets. Not a peep. This is not a peaceful, loving religion and the left needs to wake up.

  4. retahyajyajav says:

    This country isn’t perfect. Far from it.

    But whenever there’s a natural disaster like a flood, an earthquake, a tsunami or fire, who is there to help first and gives the most money to the Red Cross? The USA. We didn’t deserve 9/11, sorry Imam and if this mosque or temple or whatever the fuck you call it is eventually built, I predict it will be bombed or burned to the ground by Americans angry to have it there.

  5. Peter Reynolds says:

    If this is what free speech means in America then for the first time ever I’m glad Britain isn’t hidebound by a written constitution.

    http://peterreynolds.wordpress.com/2010/08/19/republicans-reveal-true-colours-to-brits/

  6. DMason says:

    Christopher — I had no idea this Imam told CBS News the USA deserved the attacks of 9/11. This is the sort of information we’re not getting from the MSM. I was neutral about the mosque until this. Now, I side with the majority who say “No.”

  7. Smooch says:

    Where is the cultural sensitivity on the part of the Muslims who insist on building this structure at a site opposed by 65% to 75% of people polled?

    Why can’t this Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf cat just say, “We didn’t realize how much pain this is causing the people of New York and the rest of America, so we will look elsewhere to build it.”

    Instead, he’s telling us, go fuck yourselves. Deal with it and get used to having a mosque 600 feet from the site of the World Trade Center.

  8. Big Hank,

    The Saudis could bankroll the Islamic mosque’s $100 million dollar cost with a single check.

    Foreign dollars will make the mosque a reality.

    Then, the only question left to ask is, will President Obama attend the ribbon cutting ceremony?

  9. MichaelKnows says:

    I say we sell them a plot of land where they’d be most comfortable…… In the Middle of Death Valley!!!!!!!!!

  10. Jim says:

    It surprises me that Muslim leaders are not more sensitive to the feelings of New Yorkers who suffered the horrors of September 11. If they truly cared about building bridges with the U.S. I would think that more sensitivity would be in order. But I forgot, this religion condones torture and murder of gay people. By extension, Americans are equated by these “leaders” with gay people?

  11. Randy Arroyo says:

    If you your political correctness won’t allow you to reject Islam for its slaughtering of gays via stoning and hanging, then what about some sensitivity to the 9/11 families? Or, do the people who side with building the mosque agree with Ann Coulter, who called the 9/11 widows media harpies getting rich off their dead husbands? You can’t have it both ways.

  12. Adirondacky says:

    It’s become so desperately psychotic with the Islamic mosque supporters that members of the mainstream media are now asking for George W. Bush to weigh in and agree to them. The New York Times’ Maureen Dowd and the Washington Post’s Eugene Robinson want Bush to offer his support. I’m beginning to feel like I’ve entered an insane asylum.

  13. Peter Reynolds says:

    I think the Islamic activists behind this are stupid and they demean their own beliefs by their provocation.

    http://www.peter-reynolds.co.uk

  14. Jolly Roger says:

    As detestable as I find organized religion, I am in sharp disagreement with this. a billion Muslims had no more to do with September 11 than the 2 billion Christians had to do with OKC. But I have yet to hear anyone suggesting that any Christian church near the Murrah building be moved.

  15. Peter Reynolds says:

    “As detestable as I find organized religion”

    Organised religion is the cause of most evil in the world

    http://peterreynolds.wordpress.com/2009/11/26/the-evil-of-organised-religion/

  16. Stephan Iversonn says:

    Will the real Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf please stand up?

    Why is the US State Department footing the bill for Feisal Abdul Rauf, the imam behind the controversial ground zero mosque, to tour of the Middle East.

    Is Feisal Abdul Rauf a spook? A CIA double agent? I know the CIA has a long, storied history of forging relationships with the worst leaders of the world but, Rauf told a stunned Ed Bradley the US created Osama bin Laden and had 9/11 coming, so why are the American tax payers funding his trip to the Middle east? Is he attempting to obtain foreign investment in the Cordoba/Park51 project?

    As an American taxpayer, I have a right to know.

    Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf as making several troubling statements. On March 24, 2010, Imam Abdul Rauf was quoted in an article in Arabic for the website Rights4All entitled The Most Prominent Imam in New York: ‘I Do Not Believe in Religious Dialogue. In the article, he clearly indicates that he does not believe in religious dialogue. Yet in all his interviews with the New York press, he claims this mosque is about promoting peace through religious dialogue. Imam Abdul Rauf, which is it, what you tell the Arabs or what you tell the Americans?

    On May 26, Feisal Abdul Rauf said:

    “Throughout my discussions with contemporary Muslim theologians, it is clear an Islamic state can be established in more than just a single form or mold. It can be established through a kingdom or a democracy. The important issue is to establish the general fundamentals of Sharia that are required to govern. It is known that there are sets of standards that are accepted by [Muslim] scholars to organize the relationships between government and the governed.”

    When questioned about this, Abdul Rauf continued:

    “Current governments are unjust and do not follow Islamic laws.” He added:

    New laws were permitted after the death of Muhammad, so long of course that these laws do not contradict the Quran or the Deeds of Muhammad so they create institutions that assure no conflicts with Sharia.

    Seriously? This is who the liberal media elevated as a spokesman of peace and reconciliation?

    The Sharia does not allow for religious freedom.
    The Sharia does not condone homosexuality.
    The Sharia does not accept atheism.
    The Sharia does not recognize Israel.

    Do not be fooled. Feisal Abdul Rauf is not a man of peace and he does not represent a religion founded on the principles of peace and reconciliation. And now he’s busily touring the Middle East funded by the US State Department?

  17. I’m with Jolly Roger on this one. I detest and loathe all religion period, that said though I would fight to the death for their right to practice the religion of their choice. That is a freedom guaranteed to us by the very fabric of what this country was founded for.

  18. Joe in Colorado says:

    If in fact 61% of people polled object to the mosque as well as a number of high profile Jewish groups, I must question why this Imam continues to push a project down the throats of so many people who are opposed to it? This is not about religious affiliation, and it never was. Common decency and acknowledging the need for compromise and living in harmony with people still agonizing over the 9/11 terrorist attacks must prevail or this mosque will forever be a symbol of hate and division.

  19. Stephan Iversonn,

    You raise a very important point.

    What is the relationship between the US government and Feisal Abdul Rauf? Why is there a relationship at all?

    If we’re paying for him to travel to the Middle East then, his sponsorship of the Cordoba House has absolutely nothing to do with freedom to practice religion, as President Obama wants us to believe.

    The last time I heard about such a special relationship was when the late Saddam Hussein was put on the CIA payroll. If past is prologue, then the American people need to know and this mosque cannot be built.

  20. Massagatto says:

    Dear Leader said before departing for his 6th vacation this year that he didn’t regret making those comments of support of the mosque at the Ramadan dinner.

    That’s fine.

    But Dear Leader may regret making them when he’s targeted with losing the House and senate to the Republicans in November and the White House in 2012.

  21. Pegasus says:

    President Obama’s support for the Islamic Mosque in Lower Manhattan could be an attempt to make amends for the “irtidad” or “ridda” he committed when he rejected the Muslim faith for Christianity.

    Under Muslim law, a son of a Muslim father, is a natural born Muslim and Obama was born to a Kenyan Muslim father, so the Christian faith of his mother becomes irrelevant under Muslim law.

    When Obama became a Christian, he committed a transgression, universally understood in Muslim faith. Based on the Koran, such a reject is an affront to Allah.

    Obama is not Muslim because he chose to become a Christian, but his decision is still considered to be a “irtidad” or “ridda,” translated from the Arabic as “apostasy,” but with connotations of rebellion and treason.

    Indeed, it is the worst of all crimes that a Muslim can commit, worse than murder.

  22. Tiny Dancer says:

    My head is beginning to explode from all this Islamic mosque discussion. I’m on overload.

    But I need to say this. I think we’re not being told the whole truth here. There’s more to this story than either the president, or Feisal Abdul Rauf is saying.

  23. Kate Novotny says:

    This thread is a breath of fresh air!

    I actually booted off Huffington Post today for daring to challenge the prevailing wisdom on the Islamic mosque. Apparently, there are two Constitutions.

    My crime? I asked why at that location? Why? There are several alternative locations in Manhattan offered by developers and even Gov. David Paterson to diffuse the controversy.

    I guess my question made me a heretic. Keep up the excellent blogging and don’t back down.

  24. joost says:

    I’m not one to persecute a group I disagree with even when that group persecutes gays, single mothers and women in general but the fact is, Mohammed Atta and his boys were responsible for 9/11. Not the Catholics, not the Mormons, and not the Baptists.

    After 9/11, I kept waiting to hear any Muslim group speak out against the deadly events of that awful September day but, no one said a thing. No Muslim group in the Middle Wast or America came forward to condemn the attacks.

    So now people expect this religion to show respect to the family members who lost loved ones on 9/11?

  25. Hi Kate Novotny,

    Glad to see you posting again!

    Ah yes. Another person who was banned from posting at the celebrated Huffington Post. My crime was daring to say the dress Hillary Clinton wore to her daughter’s wedding (the spotted green gown) looked my grandmother’s drapes.

    The Huffington Post is the new AmericaBlog.

  26. Matteo says:

    Wow! Even Miss USA, Rima Fakih — the first Muslim to hold that title, says the so-called Cordoba House is too close to Ground Zero!

    http://gawker.com/5617963/our-muslim-miss-usa-thinks-ground-zero-mosque-should-move

    This must mean she hates America, is opposed to religious freedoms, watches Bill O’Reilly and Glenn Beck, and is a card-carrying GOP nut job, right?

    Well no, she’s a liberal Democrat, agrees with the principles of religious freedom, and doesn’t watch FOX Noise, but she is sensitive to the pain and the suffering of the hundreds of thousands of Americans who were personally affected by 9/11.

  27. Harry says:

    I like Miss America!

  28. bradfrmphnx says:

    Well…if you want to know my opinion, lol. I could really care less where the mosque is built. But I do understand other people’s feelings. If there are alternative places for this mosque to be built, that are within a compromising distance, that is the answer.

    Meanwhile, everyone here does know that we kill innocent civilians every week in our senseless wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. You do realize this don’t you? That at times we slaughter children…

    Maybe I’m just pissing in the wind here, but the end to this dilemna isn’t going to be found by erecting walls.

  29. Rogerio Simonetti says:

    The Imam Rauf subscribes to Sharia law. This is the most conservative and extreme version of Islam and is used throughout the Muslim world to carry out the most violent human rights abuses, including beating, stoning and execution of people and groups Sharia law opposes.

    Americans can’t let this mosque be built. Period.

  30. Joe in Colorado says:

    Rogerio Simonetti — I saw your comments on the New York Times site and I agree. Sharia Law is a step back to the 12th century and when I read that Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf said the USA is “Sharia compliant” I hit the roof. Also, there’s the issue of Rauf being on the CIA payroll. I find this very troubling.

  31. LM says:

    I’m so tired of being told we can’t criticize religious beliefs, while any knee-jerk prejudice can be protected when declare “religious”. In the US beliefs are a choice – and religious beliefs should be open to *exactly* the same criticism as political beliefs. I know its not worth arguing, just a wish.

    The mosque was a stroke of genious though – they win whether it goes in or not.

  32. ultragreen says:

    It was a handful of terrorists who were responsible for the destruction of the world trade towers, and not the 1-2 billion people who practice Islam. They have every right under the U.S. constitution to build the mosque near Ground Zero, whether it is in good taste or not.

    Discrimination on the basis of religion is unacceptable.

  33. Peter Reynolds says:

    Well done Ultragreen.

    Simple, incisive and absolutely right!

  34. Pechanga says:

    Salt in the eye to the 2/3rds of New York City residents who object to this mosque.

    It’s unconscionable.

  35. Bill Hussein O'Reilly says:

    ultragreen & Peter Reynolds,

    You two are fools. Do your brains receive a blood supply?

    FACT:

    Islam is NOT a religion of peace.

    No other religion tells its followers to KILL Infidels, Convert Them, or Make Them pay Tax as punishment.

    When you leave every other religion the rest of the followers aren’t instructed to KILL you.

    These are FACTS straight out of the Qur’an!

    But please keep posting stupid comments so we can laugh in your faces.

  36. Capt. Wosocki says:

    Bill Hussein O’Reilly — Well Said!

  37. Peter Reynolds says:

    @Bill Hussein O’Reilly

    You demean yourself with your offensive behaviour

    Thank God in the free world the CapsLock brigade can be seen for what it is – hatred personified.

    Nothing can more eloquently describe the sort of person you are than your own words.

    Nevertheless, I wish you peace and enlightenment. Hate and intolerance only breeds more of the same.

    http://www.peter-reynolds.co.uk

  38. LM says:

    ultragreen,

    Certainly they have a legal right to build a mosque there. White supremacist have the same right to build a building for their beliefs. But do we let white supremacist off the hook without criticism just because they call their prejudices “religion”?

    A belief is a belief. You choose it, and you should be willing to take the criticism. If an organization that threatens me (and Islam does, with most opposing gay rights…with death a favored penalty for some) I have the right to oppose them in any legal way available.

  39. Web Knight says:

    When you allow a mosque in the heart of 9-11 heartland, it projects a Muslim victory for they will think the now “own” America. Ask any former Radical Muslims, and they will tell you the same.

    Islam was never a “religion” of Peace; it’s a mockery to claim such if you are a student of history; This mosque is a precursor to something more sinister, and maybe the subtle introduction to Sharia Law. Just watch…

  40. Stephan Iversonn says:

    I think if the 13 story Cordoba House is eventually designed and built, it will not stand for a decade.

    Someone will bring it down, just as radical Islam brought down the two, 1,300 foot World Trade Centers and 10 surrounding buildings.

    History, will repeat itself.

  41. ultragreen says:

    I will attempt to address some of the objections that have been raised against my preceding comment (see above):

    1) It makes no difference what two-thirds of the population in New York City think about the mosque. Discrimination that has been sanctioned by “mob rule” is even worse than individual acts of discrimination. The U.S. constitution still protects their right to build the mosque. It should be noted that Mayor Bloomberg of New York, who is Republican and Jewish, strongly supports the right to build the mosque at the proposed location. Like it or not, he will not stop its construction.

    2) It has been stated that Islam is a religion that advocates intolerance, violence, and murder. Therefore, such people claim, it is okay to discriminate against this religion and its adherents. While this may be true of extreme Islamic fundamentalists, it is not true of other forms of this religion and the vast majority of its adherents. We have several million people who practice Islam right here in the United States — some of them may even have died in the 911 event — I challenge anyone here to show me the crimes that these people have committed in the name of their religion. Clearly, the vast majority are law-abiding citizens of the United States.

    Just as there are conservative to liberal forms of Christianity, there are also conservative to liberal forms of Islam. Islam is not the only religion in which violence has been perpetuated in its name. Christianity has produced its fair share of wars and violent conflicts. Right here in the United States, we have fundamentalist Christians who have murdered physicians practicing abortion and they have blown-up abortion clinics. They can be regarded as Christian terrorists. So far, there does not appear to be two-thirds majority support to close down Christian churches across this country. Similarly, many Catholic priests have been in the news recently because they have sexually molested children. Once again, I don’t see any attempts to close down Catholic schools, nor does there appear to be any local efforts to ban the construction of Catholic churches near public schools.

    It has also been stated that the Koran advocates some forms of intolerance and violence. However, one can find the same thing in the Holy Bible. Hasn’t anyone here read Leviticus?

    3) This section is addressed to the preceding comment of LM: I have not criticized your right to speak out against construction of the mosque. Yes, you have the right to seek legal recourse against the construction of the mosque, however if this matter goes before the courts, they will uphold the U.S. Constitution and rule against you. Not only that, but banning the construction of the mosque probably violates local, state, and federal anti-discrimination and human rights laws.

    4) Mr. Bill has stated: “But please keep posting stupid comments so we can laugh in your faces.” This must be an example of the laughter of fools. However, the defense of our 1st Amendment rights is no laughing matter: It is one of the cornerstones of our system of government.

    5) My final comment: This really involves more than the construction of a mosque in New York: there has been local opposition to the construction of mosques in several cities across the United States. This indicates that the location of the mosque in relation to “Ground Zero” isn’t the only reason for this controversy: For some members of the opposition, it has provided a convenient excuse to discriminate against Islam and its adherents generally.

  42. Peter Reynolds says:

    Well said Ultragreen. Much as I despise the great evil of the Islamists, I stand alongside you to defend the rights of individuals to worship as they choose. The bigots, proscribers and revenge seekers here are sad fools who refuse to accept that freedom must apply across the boardto all who stay within the law. People like Bill Hussein O’Reilly are moral pygmies, traitors to our civilisation.

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