In Afghanistan, the Return of Stoning Deaths

Tuesday, August 17, 2010


Is this what President Obama is sending our troops to fight and die for?

The New York Times reports:

The Taliban on Sunday ordered their first public executions by stoning since their fall from power nine years ago, savagely killing a young couple who had eloped, according to Afghan officials and a witness.

The brutal punishment was carried out by hundreds of the victims’ neighbors in a village in northern Kunduz Province, according to a local farmer and a Taliban sympathizer, who was interviewed by telephone. Even family members were involved, both in the stoning and in tricking the couple into returning after they had fled.

People described the mood at the stoning as “festive.”

As a Taliban mullah prepared to read the judgment of a religious court, the lovers, a 25-year-old man named Khayyam and a 19-year-old woman named Siddiqa, defiantly confessed in public to their relationship. They said, ‘We love each other no matter what happens.”

A week earlier, the national Ulema Council brought together 350 religious scholars in a meeting with government religious officials, who issued a joint statement calling for more punishment under Shariah law, apparently referring to stoning, amputations and lashings.

I don’t understand President Obama’s arrogant thinking that a surge of U.S. combat troops will somehow reverse the tide of radical Islam in Afghanistan? This is a deeply theocratic nation, mired in the 9th century, with absolutely no interest in joining the greater community of modern nations.

Wake up Barry, Our troops have no business being in Afghanistan.

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14 Responses to In Afghanistan, the Return of Stoning Deaths

  1. feminazi says:

    This is outrageous. Radical Islam is a cancer on the people of the world. Radical Islam, if not contained, will, in my opinion, result in World War III, with Israel as its first victim. I was told at least 20 years ago that when Islamic nations like Iran and Pakistan get their paws on nukes, it will be the end of Israel and possibly Western Civilization as we know it.

  2. DMason says:

    Gays are regularly harassed, persecuted, and stoned to death in Islamic shitholes like Iran, Cameroon, Iraq, Afghanistan and Somalia. American liberals need to stop thinking we’re one, big happy family, as Obama wants us to think. Islam is antithetical to the west and individual rights. Thanks, for reporting this story.

  3. Massagatto says:

    Afghanistan doesn’t want change — they want to be left alone.

    The British learned this the hard way in the late 1800′s and the Russians in 1979. But the USA refuses to learn from the past and will have to be taught the hard way too.

    What the hapless Obama administration should be focused on is the economy. Paying down the $14 trillion dollar debt and creating jobs.

    Has Mr. Obama not been reading the financial papers? China is marching towards becoming the next global superpower. The Chinese economy has surpassed Japan and ranks second in the world.

    China’s spectacular growth is ten per cent per year and its appetite for everything from fuel, to food, metal and wood, is draining the developing world.

    Analysts believe it is only a matter of time before it usurps the U.S. from top spot, with some predicting this could happen as soon as 2020.

    Why isn’t the Obama administration paying attention to this fact?

  4. Eric Equality Kuntz says:

    We’re up to 9 years and $8 billion a month spent on the war in Afghanistan.

    Meanwhile, American public schools start in 2 to 3 weeks and parents are being asked to chip in monies on top of their property taxes to pay for pencils, pens, toilet paper and copier paper. Sorry, but the war in Afghanistan is a shame and Obama is a fool to remain committed to this folly.

  5. MichaelKnows says:

    Why does no one ever listen to me???? We should have Nuked these savages 8 years ago!!!!!

  6. Prairiedog says:

    Agreed.

    Keeping the troops in Afghanistan is utter insanity and only helps to fuel anti-American sentiment in a region of the world already weary of US occupation.

    If the president had any sense, he would just declare victory, announce a firm withdrawal date, and extract the troops in total over a 30 day period. But, Obama is traveling down a similar path that destroyed LBJ.

  7. Arizona Leatherneck says:

    Dude, the troops have now been in Afghanistan twice as long as they fought in the European and Asian war theaters in WWII.

    Bush invaded and occupied after 9/11 to show the American people they had a Commander in Chief with a plan, someone in charge, and committed to keeping the country safe.

    The American people were understandably freaked out after 9/11 but, we know now from released UK and Interpol intelligence that Osama bin Laden is in Pakistan — not Afghanistan. I know it, Gates knows it, Mullen knows it, Reid knows it, Pelosi knows it and worst of all, President Obama knows it.

  8. Estacada says:

    What Prairiedog said.

  9. Bungy says:

    I want us out of Afghanistan too. And stoning people to death for adultery (or being gay or…) is a bad sign of a reinvigorated Taliban. I’m also not a fan of radical fundamentalism in whatever re(li)gion it takes root.

    That said, I am reluctant to support the meme that the problem is with all Islam, as your red circle graphic implies. I certainly don’t want to reinforce the shared perspective of Al Qaeda and the Religious Right that the predominant global conflict of the 21st Century (so far) is Islam vs. the West.

  10. Brigadoon says:

    I don’t know why liberals find it so difficult to admit Islam is not a peaceful, loving religion. This is an autocratic, misogynistic, homophobic and racist religion that threatens the entire way of life in the west. Why do you think the Eurocrats in Brussels keeps rejecting Turkey’s application for membership in the European Union? They know fascism when they see it.

  11. Shayne K. says:

    David is 100% correct.
    Gays and lesbians and trans are regularly harassed, persecuted, and stoned to death in Islamic nations like Iran, Cameroon, Iraq, Afghanistan and Somalia. American liberals need to open their eyes and accept this fact. If you support the LGBT community, you can’t support radical Islam.
    Make your choice, people.

  12. Conejo1982 says:

    Wake up Barry, Our troops have no business being in Afghanistan.

    I agree but now that the Pentagon “discovered” more than $1 trillion in minerals in Afghanistan, minerals like gold and lithium, we should gird ourselves for the troops to be in Afghanistan forever.

  13. Bungy says:

    “Make your choice, people.”

    You’re either with us or your against us, eh? We do like to adopt the memes on the Right that have been so effective, don’t we?

    If you want to condemn radical fundamentalist Islam (or even radical fundamentalist Christianity) for its homophobia, mysogyny, racism, and autocracy, you’ll get no argument from me. If you want to criticize developing nations (or even those that have a ruling minority made rich on mineral wealth) for the ways in which they use conservative religious values to keep the poor masses in line, I’ll gladly join you.

    I’ll even find some common ground if you want to claim religion, in general, is more often a tool for oppression and exploitation than salvation and enlightenment.

    But I resist sweeping generalizations about a religion that is practiced by 25% of the global population. I do so pragmatically, inasmuch as I don’t think the US or even the loosely aligned “West” wants to support an antagonistic relationship with ALL of Islam, thereby reinforcing Al Qaeda’s interpretation of their “holy” jihad. I do so in principle, in as much as I don’t think any RADICAL or even fundamentalist group represents the whole of a religious (or other cultural) tradition. And I do so because of personal experience with practicing Muslims negotiating (as many Christians are) the contradictions between their holy texts and their lived experience in the modern world — folks who are working hard for the rights of LGBT/Q folks (among others) in Muslim communities.

    I’m all for having a political spine, and I wish my President had more of one. But I don’t confuse replacing one form of sweeping prejudice with another as having a backbone. And yet somehow I still manage to land in a place that strongly agrees the US should be out of Afghanistan (among other places), that the Taliban and Al Qaeda represent bad (oppressive) ideologies, and that stoning people for their sex lives is a severe violation of human rights. Go figure.

  14. LM says:

    I remember in the 1980s asking why we were helping fight the communists against the much scarier radical muslims. It’s not like we couldn’t see this coming years ago. It’s so sad and so predictable. Humans have such short and narrow vision.

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