Obama Says Yes to Islamic Mosque at Ground Zero but, No to Gay Marriage

Saturday, August 14, 2010


At a White House dinner celebrating Ramadan, President Obama proclaimed “as a citizen, and as president, I believe that Muslims have the same right to practice their religion as anyone else in this country,” and announced his support for building an Islamic mosque just two block from the site of the Sept. 11 attack on the World Trade Center.

Many people cheered the president for taking a courageous stand on a controversial local issue which has led to a national uproar over Islam, the 9/11 terrorist attacks on the U.S., and freedom of religion in the midst of a hotly contested midterm election season. Mr. Obama’s enthusiastic support for construction of the mosque put him at odds with many New York City residents, a smattering of Republican politicians and even the Anti-Defamation League, a Jewish organization, who opposes the mosque.

Whether you agree with the construction of the Islamic mosque just a stone’s throw away from the site of the worst terrorist attack in U.S. history or not, you’ve got to admit President Obama did show uncharacteristic chutzpah on the issue. So, it’s all the more beguiling that this president is unable to marshal similar courage on the issue of gay marriage.

Less than 24 hours after a Federal judge overturned Proposition 8, California’s gay marriage ban, President Obama dispatched White House spokesman David Axelrod to placate the president’s Christian-base that while Mr. Obama opposed Proposition 8 as “divisive and mean spirited,” and would “continue to promote equality,” the president believes marriage is between a man and a woman. No exceptions.

The decision in California did absolutely nothing to help the president evolve on the issue.

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33 Responses to Obama Says Yes to Islamic Mosque at Ground Zero but, No to Gay Marriage

  1. Vivzzz says:

    Just as William Jefferson Clinton was America’s first black president, Barack Hussein Obama is America’s first Muslim president.

    Trust me, when Obama’s tenure is completed, this is how the pages of history will read.

  2. Brigadoon says:

    Obama can’t seriously send his foot soldiers out to tell the media he supports equality but opposes same-sex marriage because civil unions are “separate, but equal” and as a Constitutional law professor, Obama knows this. Let’s see him get reelected without LGBT money and energy. Trust me, it ain’t going to happen.

  3. MichaelKnows says:

    Obama………… OH! What a HUGE disappointment you are…………

  4. retahyajyajav says:

    Obama is definitely more loyal to Muslims than he is to gays and lesbians.

    But didn’t we already have a sense of how this man felt when he invited the vehemently homophobic Pastor Rick Warren to perform the invocation on inaugural day? This decision was a startling insight of what was in-store for us in the next for years.

  5. Joe in Colorado says:

    President Obama is suffering from selective loyalties.

  6. bradfrmphnx says:

    Islam is set to become the #1 religion in the U.S. within something like 10 years. It is more than possible that this was politically motivated. All those millions of Muslims will remember what the Tea Party has said about them.

    That said, it doesn’t bother me that they are building a mosque at ground zero. I could care less. It was terrorists who destroyed those towers, not people of Islam. I don’t believe in their God, or the Pope’s. But I fully respect every one’s right to worship whom they want to, and I expect them to let me not worship who I want to.

    As far as Obama goes…don’t blame the puppet, blame the puppeteers.

  7. Tim Waters says:

    For sure this is unusual. He’s a funny guy as to what issues if any he takes a stand. Well the Great Appeaser has lost me. His knuckleheaded wrong thinking on Gay marriage is also on the wrong side of History.
    I’m sure the reason besides being Homophobic is a way of placating the Religious fervor displayed in our Country. He’s an idiot. Can you say one term.

  8. Seabec says:

    Islamic nations stone to death gays, lesbians, woman accused of adultery, prostitutes and non-believers.

    It should be interesting watching President Obama at the ribbon-cutting ceremony for this mosque. This assumes it is completed before Obama is voted out of office. By then his approval numbers will be in the low-20′s.

    And it all began so well……..

  9. Miss Courtet says:

    I’m very confused by this president.

    I understood Robert Gibbs to say plans to build the Islamic mosque is a local New York City matter.

    Now, surrounded by Ramadan celebrants in the White House, President Obama steps in the controversy to ardently defend the construction of the mosque.

    Doesn’t Gibbs work for and represent President Obama? How is it possible that they can’t get their messages straight?

  10. Harry says:

    I really don’t care what Obama thinks. His record on LGBT issues is atrocious and I’m focused on the 2012 General Election. We can do better.

  11. R.J. says:

    I’m with Harry. I didn’t pay attention to what President Obama had to say about the mosque. He doesn’t care about my equal rights, which is stunning considering he is the product of an interracial relationship.

  12. Norris Hall says:

    One of the difficulties in a democracy is that when you make a rule to protect yourself, the rule also ends up protecting others..even those you may dislike.
    For example freedom of speech allows you to speak your mind. But it also allows people you don’t agree with to have a voice too.

    In most undemocratic countries like north Korean, Burma and China they have solved this problem by allowing freedom of speech but limiting it to those they agree with.

    In America we have a rule that says if an area is zoned for mosques, churches and temples any religion should have the right to build there if they can meet all the legal and financial requirements.

    Many Americans blame the religion of Islam for 9/11. They want to make a new rule that says only certain religions they approve of can build near 9/11. The danger is that this is the same justification the North Koreans use to suppress free speech they do not like.

    Once you accept their logic it’s easy to buy some rather odd notions like….

    1. No Muslim mosque should be allowed to be built without approval of of local residents.
    2. Out of respect, Families who practice Islam should not be allowed to buy a house within a certain distance from a relative of a victim of 9/11
    3. All the 9/11 terrorists were Muslims. Therefore all Muslims are terrorists and are not protected by our laws.

  13. fran says:

    I am a firm believer in freedom of religion.
    I am also a firm believer in equal rights.

    Apparently the big question of the day is:
    Will Obama go swimming in the chemical dispersant?

    Hope not– it would be his “Mission Accomplished” moment.

    As for equal rights for the gay community- we have to Hound him unrelentingly on the topic.
    Just like that presentation where he was heckled to the point he HAD to address the topic– we can’t allow him to continue to answer “we’re working on it”.
    Not good enough.

  14. Mets Fan says:

    As a former New Yorker, I can assure you Obama’s support for the construction of an Islamic Mosque two blocks from the site of the Twin Towers will help him lose much support in 2012.

    Regarding his weasel-ways vis a vis gay marriage, as someone pointed out on a previous post, this clown supported marriage equality back in his Chicago days.

    Let’s see if the Nation of Islam gives their boy as much coin for his reelection bid in 2012 as did the LGBT community in 2008.

  15. MichaelKnows says:

    Obama… They should stick a Spire up your ass!!!!

  16. Walk on Socks says:

    The sad irony for Barack Obama is, he’s become just another witless, cowardly Beltway politician.

    If six reputable opinion polls came out, all showing 75% of the American people support gay marriage, little Barry would proudly stand the remaining 25% of bigots who oppose marriage equality.

    So much for our “fiercest advocate.”

  17. Joe says:

    The first thing I thought was that Mr Obama could support something this controversial but won’t support gay marriage.

    My feeling is that Mr Obama doesn’t like gay people. My feeling is that Mr Obama is very uncomfortable with gay rights.

    That’s fine. He doesn’t want to support my rights, I have the choice not to support him in 2012.

    It is a pickle: the Democrats, in general, have thrown us under the bus (again, and again, and again). The Republicans, in general, openly detest us. Still, I will not vote for Obama again.

    He campaigned as a progressive and now Gibbs belittles progressives. I’m voting green in November. Well, except for Jerry Brown, who is a proven friend of progressives and a proven friend of the gay community.

    Joe

  18. Eric Equality Kuntz says:

    Here’s the real pisser about Barry Obama.

    Glenn Beck, of all people is to the left of the president on marriage equality! Beck was a guest on Billo’s and said, “I have no problem with gay marriage. Are gays going to come a get us if they’re allowed to marry?”

  19. Chad Lebanon says:

    Poor Barry. I don’t think he knows what he believes or stands for nowadays. His handlers (Rahm. Jarret, Axelrod) have his ear buzzing with the fear if he came out in favor of gay marriage, he could offend white southerners who didn’t vote for him in 2008 and won’t vote for him in 2012. He’s becoming more and more like Jimmy Carter.

  20. Estacada says:

    While I’m personally against building a mosque in the shadow of the former World Center Towers, I saw today Obama is backing away from his statement of support for the construction of the mosque.

    His lack of spine is embarrassing. He can’t stand uo for anything or anyone. Not the mosque, not marriage equality, not the consumer against Big Banks, and I’m afraid, not America.

    Michelle Obama has bigger cajones than her willowy husband.

  21. Bel Ami says:

    My father is convinced President Obama is a Muslim.

    There ain’t nothing going to convince him different, even though I’ve tried. My father voted for the Obama because he said “after 230 years, it’s time to elect a black man president.” I can’t wait to hear him tell me I was wrong and he was right about about Obama being a Muslim after the president came out in favor of this damned mosque.

  22. Stephan Iversonn says:

    I would be happy if President Obama took a position and stuck to it. Even if I disagree, he flip-flops so much that frankly, I don’t know what he stands for, so I am left to conclude he stands for nothing. Consider:

    Net neutrality
    - Obama’s for it but, he wants the Feds to be able to snoop on your email without a warrant
    The public option
    - Obama supported it then ran away from it as fast as he could
    Gay marriage
    - In Chicago, he supported it but in Washington, it says marriage is between “a man and a woman”
    Ground zero mosque
    – He supported it Thursday but by Saturday, refuses to say he supports it
    Iraq
    - Obama campaigned on a promise to redeploy the troops by Aug. 2010 but, now he isn’t so sure
    Afghanistan
    - Obama wants to escalate our involvement but says the troops will come home next summer. Really?

    I know the White House would say all these positions on issues is triangulation and fine tuning but, I’m beginning to think the GOP isn’t the problem. I’m starting to think it’s the president, who is afraid to stick to his guns and see a policy through.

  23. TOM339 says:

    Bel Ami – I know a number of people who think the samething as your father. They’re convinced Obama is a Muslim and nothing will change their opinion.

    But at the end of the day, I couldn’t care less about the president’s religion. It isn’t relevant to my life.

    What irks me about Obama is, why is he weighing in on a local New York City matter when he should be out there talking about jobs and the economy?

  24. Bungy says:

    Of course, the proposed mosque isn’t actually at ground zero, but two blocks away. And, there’s already a mosque within that range of the former WTC. As well as a strip club, an adult toy store, and (surprise!) a bar favored by lesbians. Not that it matters to me, but the zone around ground zero is hardly treated as hallowed.

    I don’t doubt Obama’s support of the First Amendment in this case will confirm people’s “fears” that he is a Muslim. But then, that’s the point. Big surprise that Muslim has become the new “communist” in USAmerica’s 21st Century Red Scare. More accurately, it is the fluid designation of the hated “Other” for too many folks willing to use scapegoats for political advantage.

    But yes, Obama’s willingness to weigh in on the NYC mosque issue when he is virtually silent on marriage equality is telling. If my choices are (a) he’s really homophobic or (b) he’s politically spineless, neither inspires confidence in his leadership. And of course, I realize these options are not mutually exclusive.

    2012 like 2008 will depend on choosing among the available alternatives. If Obama is “inspiring” such a lack of confidence this early in 2010, I hope there will be a better alternative in 2012. Any nominations?

  25. Peace Nick says:

    I don’t pretend to understand President Obama.

    He signs off on building an Islamic mosque 2 blocks from the site of the worst terrorist attack on US soil but, he refuses to support gay marriage?

    I’m beginning to think the president has a screw loose.

  26. Jolly Roger says:

    Is it because the guy is relatively young? Is it because as a Black man, he is scared to death that he’ll be seen as an “angry Black man” in the country of Willie Horton?

    I really don’t know, but the Carter analogy is the correct one to draw. Carter was, and is, a damn good man-but he just could not bring himself to plant his feet when they needed firm planting.

  27. distributorcap says:

    christopher

    off topic

    sorry your comments on Be My Baby got deleted. i had major issues for a while with blogger and it ended up deleting (or i did by accident) many comments. i, being a luddite, didnt know what i was doing when i deleted a post

    sorry for the confusion

  28. Nan Yun says:

    Isn’t Obama a member of the United Church of Christ, which is one of the few religions that sanctions same sex marriages? So, his anti-gay marriage position puts him at odds with his own religion.

    Very strange indeed!

  29. RJ says:

    I totally agree with the first poster, I at this point am afraid that Obogus IS a Muslim. Why does his facebook page list his Religion as ‘Christian/Other’? The story of this man and what was done, and by whom, to install him in the office of POTUS, couldn’t be created by Hollywood. Some years from now, we’ll watch Frontline recount the whole Obama FRAUD and we won’t even believe it happened.

  30. an american says:

    this country killed thousands of people becouse of there religion know they want to practice it there obama i cant wait till we vote a new president

  31. Joni says:

    Mr Obama if islam can build anywhere (ground zero) why cant israel???

  32. Greg says:

    For the first time in my life, I will be supporting 3rd party in ’12. This is unacceptable what the two corrupt parties have done to this nation. Lied to get elected…and now, more wars, a worse economy, and yet less personal freedoms for responsible people. Give me a break!

  33. Elisha zachariah says:

    What a courageous decision but prepare and wait for opposition

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